'Sovereign Citizen' Seizes 'Abandoned' Ohio Homes While Owners Out of Town

‘Sovereign Citizen’ Seizes ‘Abandoned’ Ohio Homes While Owners Out of Town

Wingnuts • November 2013 • Views: 2,064

An Ohio family says a man took their home from them by going inside while they were out of town, changing the locks and laying claim to the property in court.

The family told WLWT-TV that they found out after returning from a visit to a dying relative that Robert Carr had filed “quiet title” documents after the family abandoned their home of 21 years.

“What he’s looking for is full title and ownership of the home,” said the family’s attorney, Alison Warner.

WLWT reported that Carr had undertaken the same legal process at least a dozen times in Butler and Hamilton counties, including seven cases filed the same day.

More: ‘Sovereign Citizen’ Defies Authorities and Seizes ‘Abandoned’ Ohio Homes

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7 comments

FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:40:08am

Whacko!!

Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:14:39pm

If he really is a sovereign citizen, then why he is he bothering with the courts?

Skip Intro Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:31:14pm

How does visiting a dying relative = abandoning their home?

Romantic Heretic Tue, Nov 26, 2013 1:18:50pm

So if someone whose house he is trying to steal shoots him? Does that come under the ‘Castle doctrine’ or ‘stand your ground’?

What if he shoots the person he’s stealing from? “Castle’ or ‘SYG’?

I ask because you know that’s going to happen sooner or later.

EiMitch Tue, Nov 26, 2013 3:16:47pm

WLWT reported that Carr had undertaken the same legal process at least a dozen times in Butler and Hamilton counties, including seven cases filed the same day.

Basically, this guy is a land-snatcher. This law needs to be changed, asap.

Btw, how is this not a legalization of trespassing and breaking-and-entering? What kind of whack-job lawmaker thought this was good idea in the first place?

theheat Tue, Nov 26, 2013 3:52:04pm

He’s a professional opportunist and squatter, simultaneously hating the government while taking advantage of its legal provisions. And I suspect he’s watched more than a handful of the late night real estate get-rich-quick infomercials where people with enough time on their hands can scan tax records to see which forgotten piece of property they can leverage.

Sadly, what he’s done is legal. Despicable, but legal.

Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:40:20pm

re: #4 Romantic Heretic

So if someone whose house he is trying to steal shoots him? Does that come under the ‘Castle doctrine’ or ‘stand your ground’?

What if he shoots the person he’s stealing from? “Castle’ or ‘SYG’?

I ask because you know that’s going to happen sooner or later.

The relevant law is the Castle Doctrine, though Ohio did just pass a version of ‘Stand Your Ground’. However, to invoke it the owners would have to actually be in the house when the ‘Sovereign Citizen’ tried to break in or have come home before he changed the locks. If you come home to find the SovCit already in your house you’d be obligated to go through the courts. Self-Defense law does not allow you to knowingly enter a ‘zone of danger’.

Note: The Ohio SYG law, however, maintains self-defense as an affirmative defense and has tighter rules for justification than Florida’s SYG law does.

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